Here are the audio recordings of the two sessions with Jim and Casper (right click “download” to download the file to your computer). The presentation in both sessions is similar but the questions from the audience after the presentation are different.
Is This What Jesus Told You Guys To Do? (Friday)
Jim Henderson & Matt Casper
I’m a recovery snob. Having been involved for almost 6 years in various recovery/healing groups, I see the immense benefit of working on our stuff through a 12 step program. I believe, to the point of sometimes cramming my agenda down your throat. I mean, hey, I have wisdom that I think should be imparted to you! The truth is my goal is, quite often, very noble and helpful. It is good to accept Jesus and be a Christ follower. It’s good for a child to learn to integrate into the world around him/her. It’s also good for the addict to come to grips with their brokenness and begin to heal. but i’m definitely beginning to rethink my role and my methods in this process.
A half a year ago, I was talking to one of my mentors about someone I’d known for a few years. This young lady was, in my prideful opinion, in need of my wisdom on her recovery. (A need she had never shared that she needed or desired, but I have been practicing mind reading for decades). So I decided I was going to make her a “project” of mine. (more…)
Pastor Mark Van Steenwyk has posted a detailed review of this book on his blog. Overall Mark thought
The book was pretty well written, though I could tell from Jesus’ sections that he hadn’t written a book before. His insights were the most insightful, but I found I could relate with Tim’s perspective more easily.
Not Joel Osteen but Joel Klampert, music director, worship leader, marketing and design guy for St. Michael’s Charismatic Episcopal Church in Newport, RI.
Joel gives Jim and Casper go to Church just 2 stars out of 5. Here are his comments about the book
In Jim and Casper Go to church we see a Christian retired pastor and an athiest go from church to church talking about their opinions on it. This book has been getting rave reviews so I bet most of you are surprised Ive got 2 stars on it. As a matter of fact Brent sent me a message asking why. My issues with the book… First off this was suppose to be a completely unbiased approach to rating the churches and it wasn’t. The Christian waled in with his matter of fact beliefs on everything and was not very open to anything that didnt fit into his scope. The athiest wasn’t and unchurched one. He went to one churhc and said that it felt like home because he grew up in a church like that. Basically through the whole book you realize they have it in their heads what church should be like and they are weighing everything against that. Basically it came down to a few things for them. Outreach was key almost to the point that they didnt even think you needed “Church†you just needed a church body. I didn’t agree with most of the theology in the book and a few things took me aback. Casper mentions that the churches sing about the blood too much…and it is kinda freaky. Then Jim ends up agreeing with him. I think he needs to read dangerous act of worship. I was floored by this..we sing about the blood because that is what our faith is all about…We cant leave that out just to make people feel comfortable. Im not going to go into the rest of the book…I think you should read it, but understand it may tick you off.
Joel’s assumption the book was unbiased surprised me. I think someone must have misinformed him about the book because I’ve never heard Jim or Casper claim to be unbiased.