Jim posted this comment on our feedback page - I’m moving it to here - anyone feel free to jump in and respond to Jim’s question along with Bill.
Bill
You are very thoughtful and open minded.
This comment caught my attention
I think so many of those things would be changed if people would really “work the program”. Really preach the love of Jesus….be in love with Jesus…and allow Jesus to work through them in this world. Ultimately, if Christians did a better job of manifesting the fruit of the spirit…so many other things would fall into place.
What does preaching the love of Jesus and being in love with Jesus actually look like to you?
What I mean is - If I was watching a video of you with the sound turned off and I said to myself - Wow, he is really preaching the love of Jesus or he obviously really really loves Jesus - What would I be seeing? What would you be doing? Paint a picture for me
There we were, back in the saddle or more accurately back in a basement church room with a bunch of earnest Christ-loving broads but in this case a portrait of the pope. Two hours of Why Catholic?—“a unique adult faith formation process solidly based on Sacred Scripture, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and updated to include citations from the newly published United States Catholic Catechism for Adults.” The group leader told us that “the program is book-driven, but we don’t use the book very much.” Renegades. Cool. I can relate: This one time, in high school, I totally missed curfew so I could finish watching My Fair Lady with my friend’s mom. True story. And if God didn’t want me to stay out till midnight, he shouldn’t have made Audrey Hepburn so enchanting as Eliza Doolittle.
Back to the basement room: The elements I’ve grown accustomed to were there, like the “us against the secular world” line of chatter, which from where I’m sitting with the cohorts in my teeny minority sounds dubious at best, and speaking of dubious, has anybody else heard that Karl Rove is an agnostic? Not that I want to claim him, but the irony of his nonbelief adds a new layer of evil to his program of Christian manipulation, does it not? Hypocrisy, I mean, just so we’re clear.
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Here are the audio recordings of the two sessions with Jim and Casper (right click “download” to download the file to your computer). The presentation in both sessions is similar but the questions from the audience after the presentation are different.
Is This What Jesus Told You Guys To Do? (Friday)
Jim Henderson & Matt Casper
